Why should I go to church??
Maybe you were playing baseball and the ball went over the fence into their yard and you want your ball back.
Nathan Natas
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Would you go to church?
by Coded Logic ini have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.
even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.
just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.
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Would you go to church?
by Coded Logic ini have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.
even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.
just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.
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Nathan Natas
I went to a church a couple of days ago.
I have a neighbor with low vision (legally blind) who wanted to attend the funeral of a friend of hers who had died. She was at a loss about how she would get there, so I volunteered to provide transportation and protective detail.
The funeral mass was held in a Roman Catholic Church. No big deal; I was born Roman Catholic and baptized RC before I even knew my name. My plan was to dress "business casual" and to not participate in the ceremonies, recitations, etc. All in all it was a boring - very boring - three hours, but my "mission" was just to get my friend there and back with minimum stress for her.
Before the Mass itself started there was the recitation of the Rosary. Booooorrrrriiiinnnggggg! I was unable to keep my eyes open toward the end - the chanting, over and over and over, with The Lord's Prayer in between chants! Seriously, it seemed they recited the Lord's Prayer 12 times. Jesus wept! I am sure I was actually asleep for the last couple of minutes.
Then a brief break.
Then the Mass. "Blah blah, blah, stand up, sit down, stand up, kneel ( I sat), stand up, sit down, stand up, kneel ( I sat) stand up, sit down. I think this exercise program was designed by Jack LaLane! Then get in line to receive communion, or, if your from another tradition but would like a blessing, just cross your arms over your chest when you approach the altar and you'll be blessed by the Priest without the offer of wine and wafer.
The most moving thing, to me, was the eulogy for the deceased offered by her son. From what he said I realized that some people really do have good and loving mothers. She was one.
Finally it was over. I approached the son who gave the eulogy and told him he did a great job.
Conclusion: I'm not "church material" but I am willing to fulfill a promise made to a neighbor, just as any good atheist would do.
There were a few things that were different from what I remember of 57 years ago: the church I went to as a child was a traditional RC church; this one was a modern RC church, built in 1985, with a scarcity of statues, staines glass that was abstract, illustrating nothing, and GIRLS as "Altarboys"and WOMEN conducting the Rosary! Petras was a rolling stone!
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A few years ago I attended the Greek festival sponsored by the local Greek Orthodox Church, and I took the Church tour. Lots of iconography and statues in that strange fake Greek Orthodox Icon perspective. A bit more interesting, and the food was GREAT! Lamb, Calamari, Spanikopita, Retsina, OPA! The food is always good at church festivals. If you are curious about a church, attend a festival and drink wine until the feeling passes.
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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi
by EndofMysteries inhttp://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.
"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.
another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.
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Nathan Natas
EndofMysteries, you seem very well informed. </sarcasm off>
NAME some of those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.
Please provide proof for your straw man argument.
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They came swiftly and left like a speeding bullet, JW.ORG
by jam ini was in the den when the old lady yell, "your friends are here".. at the door stood a jw.
hi sir (no good morning sir) we have a web site,.
jw.org in different languages.
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Nathan Natas
Two thoughts:
"They came swiftly and left like a speeding bullet," they say it helps if you think about baseball.
Remember the BOOK "Qualified th be Ministers"?
I suppose it is now a one-sided tract.
If you can get from one door to the other without pissing your pants, you're QUALIFIED, Bro!
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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!
by BucketShopBill inwant to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?
only in the jw mindset!!!.
we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.
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Nathan Natas
LisaRose, that is EXCELLENT! BRILLIANT!
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Nathan Natas
Five years ago! And how's that working out for y'all?
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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!
by BucketShopBill inwant to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?
only in the jw mindset!!!.
we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.
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Nathan Natas
BSB, you might want to "return the favor" by pointing out that Elder Helpful *might* be pleasuring himself orally since his anatomy puts him in the proximity of such a practice. If he denies it, suggest that maybe he has transvestites give him a hand in that area. After all, it is a possibility, and you're just being diligent in looking out for his spiritual health.
Or you could just punch the lying sack of crap in his 'nads. The deep beathing thus stimulated will increase the oxygenation of his peripheral tissues, much to his benefit.
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Last Reminder for TV Program Witness To Murder, Wed., Aug. 20th @ 9PM ET/8CT
by AndersonsInfo inlast notice for a new documentary produced for television on id discovery channel, based on jim kostelniuk's book, wolves among sheep: the true story of murder in a jehovahs witness community.. .
deadly devotion season 2:.
witness to murder.
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Nathan Natas
Oubliette, thanks! I have not been keeping up with Jehovah's Glorious Celestial Honey-Wagon-like organization. Shit!
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If the Governing Body Told You They Love You All Very Much, What Would Your Reply Be?
by steve2 inin a letter in the 2013 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body sign off with the words, "we love you all very much".
these words were later echoed by one of the governing body in an address to french jehovah's witnesses in july this year.
these words sound so marvellously compelling and heartfelt - goosebump inducing, even.. imagine the governing body wrote these words to you or expressed them to you in person- yes to you reading these very words.
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Nathan Natas
If they said that to me, my response would be "Blow me."
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Last Reminder for TV Program Witness To Murder, Wed., Aug. 20th @ 9PM ET/8CT
by AndersonsInfo inlast notice for a new documentary produced for television on id discovery channel, based on jim kostelniuk's book, wolves among sheep: the true story of murder in a jehovahs witness community.. .
deadly devotion season 2:.
witness to murder.
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Nathan Natas
I think that in general it was GREAT, but I wish they would have made an effort to get the small details right. One example: during the almost 20 years I was "in" I NEVER, EVER heard JWs talking about the "rapture" as something they expected to experience, not even "anointed JWs.
JWs consider the "rapture" doctrine to be part of Babylonish "Churchianity."